which 'puts them on defensive and having them play obama's game. i think romney probably needs to go in there with a thought out piece by piece critique of barack obama's economic policies linking him to the weak economy that he has presided over four years. i say that because my sense, paul, there are a substantial number of voters. people lo say i think i'm going to vote for president obama. i don't feel that strongly about it, but i don't think mr. romney has made the case with me. i wish i could hear him out before i make up my mind. this is the opportunity to do that. >> paul: that obama narrative is disaster. don't let mitt romney who is just like george bush brings you back to the disaster and some people are buying that narrative. reluctantly because i think romney has not connected obama's policies to the pain they feel? >> forward looking, the president he would be and let him present to the people what the disaster would be in the second term for obama. what would be the case. he doesn't have to worry nice guy and all this. this is the o